November 29, 2004
Rejecting the next Bill Gates
Posted by gizmo at 12:59 PM in education . | 4 Comments
"The facts are plain. U.S. visa procedures have become far too cumbersome, and bureaucrats are turning down far more applications than ever before. One crucial result is the dramatic decline of foreign students in the U.S.—the first shift downward in 30 years."
In addition to this article regarding the visa crisis, here are three more Ive come across:
U.S. losing ground to foreign scientists
Fewer foreign students coming to the U.S.
Fewer exchange students attending U.S. high schools
As a person who is impacted by the visa issues both personally and professionally I feel this is a huge huge problem. When I was at OSU I was the only US student in the analog VLSI lab out of at least 30. Where Im currently working there are NO US design engineers and only a handful working in the test lab. My boyfriend is Peruvian and cannot look for a job in Portland because he doesnt have a visa yet. Fortunately he is in academia, so he can at least get a visa this year.
The H1-B quota (industry) is renewed every year in october. This year the quota ran out in early october. Thus, no new visas can be given for the entire next year. So not only are foreign students increasingly wary of the US's foreign policy, but the bush administration and their patriot act have made it impossible for foreign students to stay here. Additionally, since so few US citizens go into high tech companies are now starved for workers and are essentially forced to outsource.
So these students, most of whom are Masters or PhD recipients (33% of PhDs awarded in this country are to US citizens) and who have been funded in some fashion by the US government or our private sector are being sent back to their countries.
Maybe this is why the US is "losing ground" to foreign scientists.
I personally find this situation ridiculous and maddening. What does everyone else think about this?
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There are a few holes in his argument, but, overall, I agree -- to have the best higher educational system in the world, we need the best students. Posted by: brette at November 29, 2004 3:28 PM |
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While we noted the initial significant drop in foreign graduate student enrollment here on disjointed almost a year ago, these more recent articles in more mainstream media might actually get someone's attention.. it's a lot more effective when put like: Gizmo, I am in a similar situation as you. My girlfriend is here from Japan on a student/working visa which expires in April. She has already been denied once for an E2 visa. Her company considered doing an H1-B but as you mentioned, the deadline and cutoff happened already in October. She could apply for next year in a couple months but wouldn't get any result until next October... well after her current visa expires. As a domestic scientist (;) I am personally committed to leaving this country if my foreign (relatively speaking) girlfriend can't stay. (Course, I'll probably leave even if she can...) But we can also disconnect the H1-Bs for a moment from the drop in student visas... even if we have legitimate reasons for dropping the number of H1-Bs to a fraction of their tech boom high, they don't necessarily apply to limiting the number of foreign students doing awesome research here. I'm sure Richard Florida has something to say about the effects of a nation making itself less attractive to the foreign creative class. Posted by: agent1073 at November 30, 2004 11:45 AM |
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Also, how does this country deal with the cognitive dissonance of being told to and wanting to hate everything foreign, worldly, or cosmopolitan, and at the same time having to consider that they are very much dependent on an influx of foreign ideas and the brains that come up with them and the people that contain the brains... and the cultures that produce the people we are unable to produce. Posted by: agent1073 at November 30, 2004 11:51 AM |
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I would very seriously consider leaving the US if my boyfriend cant stay here. Its just so frustrating. I didnt hear any of our presidential candidates talk about this issue for fear of offending the folks that balk at the idea that foreigners provide the majority of our skilled labor. Its fact. People need to swallow their pride and get over it. Heck, i might have to move overseas anyawy if tech leaves the US. Im not interested in working in a factory or a mcdonalds. FYI here is yet another article regarding visa problems impacting the US: Tight visa rules hurt US business I was at a conference last year where many middle eastern students had to have their work presented for them because they were denied visas to re-enter the US. The conference was in Canada. Posted by: gizmo at November 30, 2004 1:17 PM |